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谁跟我解释一下Daedra这种怪物

它们究竟是什么生物?是不是邪神?他们从哪里来的?好象还可以从他们那里接任务.

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……从没接过
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在崇拜tri什么什么之前(就是dummor temple祭拜的主神啦)的远古时代,dummor崇拜的是他们的祖先化身的神,这些先祖们就被称为daedra。后来来了temple,来了tri什么什么主神,给dummor带来了新的信仰。daedra当中的一部分成为了这位新神的盟友,后来被称为good daedra,继续被dummor祭拜。而另外4个daedra(名字记不清楚了,只记得一位姓bal,一位名dagou,hehe)不服新的势力并发起了战争,当然他们被打败了并逃遁了。他们被称为bad daedra,但至今仍有许多dummor秘密的信仰他们。


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很高兴有想了解tamriel历史的人,warii说的不是很清楚,建议你去
http://m0use.net/~xanathar/gods/
仔细看看,会大有收获的


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另外还有dreugh,伟大的史前文明也值得研究呀,不过资料很少


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谢谢各位的回答

可是好象daedra里面还分有三到四种,分别是clannfear, Daedroth ,Daedra Lord 和Dremora.第一种是只蜥译,第二种是长着鳄鱼头的怪物,第三种不详,第四种就是最普通的穿甲的
daedra.他们之间是什么关系?望高手指点,谢了

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回复,他们的分类是按智力分的:
There are many type of lesser daedra, from the powerful Daedra Lord, Daedra Count to Daedroth and even the stupid Vermai. I classified these lesser daedra into three classes base on their intelligent.

First the high intelligent daedra. Include in this class are Daedra Lord, Daedra Count, Dark Seducer and Seducer. They usually start combat using various magical attacks before they close to melee. Some of them also use invisibility spell in hand-to-hand combat; make them hard to defeat.

The second class is medium intelligent daedra. They are Fire Daedra, Frost Daedra, Dremora, Herne, Spider Daedra, and Morphoid Daedra. In combat they also use magical attacks, but not deadly as the previous class.

The last class is low intelligent daedra. Including here are Daedroth, Scamp, Clanfear, and Vermai. They are stupid, almost all of them can not use magic (so far, the Daedroth can cast Silence spell) and some of them can not even talk.

There are some unique daedra those are not fit in these catagories, usually they are some kind of leaders

至于他们之间的关系,那大概又可以写个故事了,等着游戏公司出新游戏吧。
关于DAEDRA的具体定义原话是:
Daedra are an old elfish word for strange and powerful creatures of uncertain motivation who came from the dimension of Oblivion.The Oblivion itself is a place composed of many lands, thus the many names for which Oblivion is synonymous: Coldharbour, Quagmire, Moonshadow, and others. It may be supposed that each land of Oblivion is ruled by one Daedra Prince.Some of them help mortals doing good deeds, the other time they help wicked people doing assasination and other bad things.

这里是DAEDRA对自己的介绍,分类,以及他们对人类的看法:

How you should know us.

DEATH, DEFEAT AND FEAR

We do not die. We do not fear death.

Destroy the Body, and the Animus is cast into the Darkness. But the Animus returns.

But we are not all brave.

We feel pain, and fear it. We feel shame, and fear it. We feel loss, and fear it. We hate the Darkness, and fear it.

The Scamps have small thoughts, and cannot fear greatly.

The Vermai have no thoughts, and cannot fear.

The Dremora have deep thoughts, and must master fear to overcome it.

THE CLAN BOND

We are not born, we have not fathers and mothers, yet we have kin and clans.

The clan-form is strong. It shapes body and thought.

In the clan-form is strength and purpose.

THE OATH BOND

We serve by choice. We serve the strong, so that their strength might shield us.

Clans serve by long practice, but practice may change.

Dremora have long served Dagon, but not always so.

Practice is secure when the oath-bonds are secure, and trust is shared.

When oath-bonds are weak, there is pain, and shame, and loss, and Darkness, and great fear.

HOW WE THINK ABOUT MAN

Perhaps you find Scamps comic, and Vermai brutish.

How then do you imagine we view you humans?

You are the Prey, we are the Huntsmen.

The Scamps are the Hounds, the Vermai the Beaters.

Your flesh is sweet, and the chase is diverting.

As you may sometimes praise the fox or hare, admiring its cunning and speed, and lamenting as the hounds tear its flesh, so do we sometimes admire our prey, and secretly applaud when it cheats our snares or eludes pursuit.

But, like all worldly thing, you will in time wear, and be used up. You age, grow ugly, weak and foolish. You are always lost, late or soon.

Sometimes, the prey turns upon us and bites. It is a small thing. when wounded or weary, we fly away to restore. Sometimes a precious thing is lost, but that risk makes the chase all the sweeter.

MAN'S MYSTERY

Man is mortal, and doomed to death and failure and loss.

This lies beyond our comprehension - why do you not despair?

现在已知的共有16位DAEDRA PRINCE, 他们是:
Azura, whose sphere is dusk and dawn, the magic inbetween realms of twilight; known by the names The Daedric Prince of Moonshadow, Mother of the Rose, and Queen of the Night Sky.

Boethiah, whose sphere is deceit and conspiracy, and the secret plots of murder, assasination, treason, and unlawful overthrow of authority

Clavicus Vile, whose sphere is the granting of power and wishes through ritual invocations and pact.

Hermaeus Mora, whose sphere is scrying of the tides of fate, of the past and future as read in the stars and heaven, and in whose dominion are the treasures of knowledge and memory

Hircine, whose sphere is the hunt, the sports of daedra, the greatest game, the chase and sacrifice of mortals; known by the names The Huntsman of The Princes, and The Father of Manbeasts

Malacath, whose sphere is the patronage of the spurned and octracized, and the sworn oath, and the bloody curse

Mehrunes Dagon, whose sphere is destruction, change, revolution, energy, and ambition




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续
Mephala, whose sphere is abscured to mortals; known by the names Webspinner, Spinner, and Spider; whose only consistent theme seems to be interference in the affairs of mortals for her amusement

Meridia, whose sphere is also obscured to mortals; who is associated with the energies of living things.

Molag Bal, whose sphere is the domination and enslavement of mortals; whose desire is the harvest the souls of mortals and to bring mortals souls within his sway by spreading seeds of strife and discord in the mortal realms.

Namira, whose sphere is the ancient darkness; known as the Spirit Daedra, ruler of sundry dark and shadowy spirits; associated with spiders, insects, slugs, and other repulsive creatures which inspire mortals with an instinctive revulsion.

Nocturnal, whose sphere is the night and darkness; who is known as The Night Mistress.

Peryite, whose sphere is the ordering of the lowest order of The Oblivion; who is known as Taskmaster.

Sanguine, whose sphere is hedonistic revelry and debaucherie, and passionate indulgences of darker natures.

Sheogorath, whose sphere is madness and whose motives are unknowable.

Vaernima, whose sphere is the realm of dreams and nightmares, and from whose realm issues forth evil omens.
把图都列出来希望大家在游戏中找找看,每个人都有一件宝物哟!!


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Old Post 2002-05-20 20:56
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谢谢高手指点

谢谢高手指点,果然够高.这16个神都会在MW里出现吗?

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Old Post 2002-05-21 09:46
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估计现在还没有谁打通全关呢,所以会不会全出现还有待查证,现在已找到的宝物有
Azura' star, ebony mail, skeleton's key(据我所知),剩下的还有很多,象oghma infinium
book, 可以加50点人物属性;专门用于暗杀的匕首Mehrunes razor,杀人于无形;盗贼专用的隐身戒指ring of khajiit, 吸血鬼的权杖mace of molag bal, 可以反弹伤害的戒指ring of
Namira,还有Wabbajack可以把怪物变成老鼠之类的任你扁,最终级的要属skull of Corruption头盔了,能够镜像一个和你对战的怪物,你要做的就是站在旁边观战了
是不是流口水了,哈哈,快去游戏中找吧!!


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Old Post 2002-05-21 11:19
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谢啦

By the way,MW的怪物设定是原创的吧?其风格之怪实在是..........像什么bull nutch,在空中飞的水母..........

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