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由东西在 2002-07-08 06:15 发表:

Wail of Banshee，拍的一下全死了，Weird还要看那个东西从下面爬上来，影响FPS.......

由 Raistlin Majere 在 2002-07-08 07:29 发表:

WoB，因为我选择了Enchantment，用不了Illusion的法术，哈哈，而且我还有Necromancy Focus...
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I don't feel a thing
And I stop remembering
The days are just like moments turn to hours
Mother used to say
If you want, you'll find a way
But mother never danced through fire showers
Walk in the rain, in the rain, in the rain
I walk in the rain, in the rain
Is it right or is it wrong?
Or is it here that I belong?

I dont't hear a sound
Silent faces in the ground
The quiet screames, but I refuse to listen
If there is a hell
I'm sure this is how it smells
Wish this were a dream, but no it isn't
Walk in the rain, in the rain, in the rain
I walk in the rain, in the rain
Why do I feel so alone
For some reason I think of home

由不是很懂在 2002-07-08 08:54 发表:

靠！怎么都是这种理由啊！

WOB是fortitude save的，weird是will save的，谁更容易被save呢？这最重要！

由 inquisitor 在 2002-07-08 09:06 发表:

这两个没有好坏之分，只是对付不同的敌人用不同的法术而已。
Wail of Banshee只有坚韧豁免，所以对付法师型的敌人是不错的，因为法师型的敌人一般坚韧豁免不高，但意志豁免较高，所以Wail of Banshee比较适合。
至于Weird由于它先要进行意志豁免判定，豁免失败就立即死亡，如果意志豁免通过了，还要经过一次坚韧豁免判定，不通过就受到3D6的伤害。所以很明显，Weird对战士系的敌人成功率较高，因为战士系的意志豁免低，坚韧豁免高，但monk不在这个范围内。

由 Raistlin Majere 在 2002-07-08 09:06 发表:

回复: 靠！怎么都是这种理由啊！

引用:
最初由不是很懂发表
WOB是fortitude save的，weird是will save的，谁更容易被save呢？这最重要！

Weird更容易被save，以为战士类的敌人fortitude和will都很高，而法师类的敌人will也都不错但fortitude低，所以还是WoB最好用，哈。
__________________
I don't feel a thing
And I stop remembering
The days are just like moments turn to hours
Mother used to say
If you want, you'll find a way
But mother never danced through fire showers
Walk in the rain, in the rain, in the rain
I walk in the rain, in the rain
Is it right or is it wrong?
Or is it here that I belong?

I dont't hear a sound
Silent faces in the ground
The quiet screames, but I refuse to listen
If there is a hell
I'm sure this is how it smells
Wish this were a dream, but no it isn't
Walk in the rain, in the rain, in the rain
I walk in the rain, in the rain
Why do I feel so alone
For some reason I think of home

由 RealMyth 在 2002-07-08 09:09 发表:

回复: 回复: 靠！怎么都是这种理由啊！

引用:
最初由 Raistlin Majere 发表

Weird更容易被save，以为战士类的敌人fortitude和will都很高，而法师类的敌人w...

战士类的坚韧高,意志低.法师相反.
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由 geckothesidhe 在 2002-07-08 09:34 发表:

NWN里绝大部分的敌人不管是怪物还是NPC，Fortitude Saving都比Will Saving高很多（所有职业里只有Bard,Soc和Wiz的比Will Saving比Fortitude Saving高）...但如果你想要一下子解决掉一群法师的话WoB自然很强...不过法师似乎很少成群出没，哎...
此外还要考虑到魔法免疫的问题...我的印象里对Death免疫的敌人比对Mind-Affecting免疫的敌人多...

BTW:这里有人用牧师么，能给讲讲Word of Faith是怎么一会事儿啊？看着自己的Henceman用一个7级法术把第4章那个Half-Dragon Balor一击毕命（那家伙连作了4次Save vs Will，最后一次失败了）就好眼红...
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Cat's in the well, the gentle lady is asleep.
She ain't hearing a thing, the silence is a-stickin' her deep.
The cat's in the well, and pappa is reading the news.
His hair is falling out and all of his daughters need shoes.
The cat's in the well and the servant is at the door.
The drinks are ready and the dogs are going to war.
The cat's in the well, leaves are starting to fall
Goodnight, my love, may the lord have mercy on us all.

由 inquisitor 在 2002-07-08 09:37 发表:

这个有关牧师的使用我在前面提到过，Word of Faith对召唤系的敌人是一击必杀的，就算balor也逃不过的。还有Word of Faith是没有豁免判定的，只有SR。

由枫风在 2002-07-08 09:51 发表:

gecko兄也来，有礼了。NWN还没退掉啊？

由 Raistlin Majere 在 2002-07-08 09:53 发表:

牧师/战士用Harm才是王道啊...只要命中(抛去魔防不说)就是个死啊(HP直接减到1D4，然后再来一下)...

不过WoF对付杂兵也很好用，尤其是对付召唤生物，管你是外界还是恶魔，全都给我回老家去种田，在NWN里，WoF就像BG里的DS一样好用，推荐推荐

PS.有人用德鲁依么，我看了一下德鲁依的法术表，发现原来最强召唤术原来是在他们的手里啊...就是不知道实际的时候是怎样，反正我是万年法师，懒得去弄别的职业了。

引用:

召唤元素(Elemental Swarm)
施法者等级：德鲁依 9,
固有等级：9
派别：咒法系（空气、水系、火系、土系）
组件：咒语、动作
范围：中距离
区域效果/目标：召唤生物
持续时间：24小时
附加反制法术：Dissmissal
豁免：无
魔法抵抗：无
施法者召唤一个24hd的空气元素来帮助自己，直到法术持续时间或者该元素死亡，如果该空气元素死亡，那么一个24hd的水元素自动被召唤出来，然后是土元素和火元素，一旦火元素被消灭，该法术也自动结束。

__________________
I don't feel a thing
And I stop remembering
The days are just like moments turn to hours
Mother used to say
If you want, you'll find a way
But mother never danced through fire showers
Walk in the rain, in the rain, in the rain
I walk in the rain, in the rain
Is it right or is it wrong?
Or is it here that I belong?

I dont't hear a sound
Silent faces in the ground
The quiet screames, but I refuse to listen
If there is a hell
I'm sure this is how it smells
Wish this were a dream, but no it isn't
Walk in the rain, in the rain, in the rain
I walk in the rain, in the rain
Why do I feel so alone
For some reason I think of home

由 geckothesidhe 在 2002-07-08 10:26 发表:

???
我在NWN里似乎没见过土元素啊...
__________________
Cat's in the well, the gentle lady is asleep.
She ain't hearing a thing, the silence is a-stickin' her deep.
The cat's in the well, and pappa is reading the news.
His hair is falling out and all of his daughters need shoes.
The cat's in the well and the servant is at the door.
The drinks are ready and the dogs are going to war.
The cat's in the well, leaves are starting to fall
Goodnight, my love, may the lord have mercy on us all.

由 Raistlin Majere 在 2002-07-08 10:41 发表:

引用:
最初由 geckothesidhe 发表
???
我在NWN里似乎没见过土元素啊...

练个Druid用下这个魔法不就知道有没有土元素了嘛~
__________________
I don't feel a thing
And I stop remembering
The days are just like moments turn to hours
Mother used to say
If you want, you'll find a way
But mother never danced through fire showers
Walk in the rain, in the rain, in the rain
I walk in the rain, in the rain
Is it right or is it wrong?
Or is it here that I belong?

I dont't hear a sound
Silent faces in the ground
The quiet screames, but I refuse to listen
If there is a hell
I'm sure this is how it smells
Wish this were a dream, but no it isn't
Walk in the rain, in the rain, in the rain
I walk in the rain, in the rain
Why do I feel so alone
For some reason I think of home

由 Siegfried 在 2002-07-08 11:09 发表:

三版牧师比二版强多了
核心规则里Trickery Domain Spell有Time Stop, 而且奥术表里没有Spell Mantle和Spell Breach

但在NWN里牧师单打独斗还是不如法师
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由 RealMyth 在 2002-07-08 11:20 发表:

NWN里在C3的法师之圈里有可能遇见土元素.
NWN中敌人的强弱是根据难度和玩家的等级改变的,一个地点如果出现的是不死系怪物,当你LV1时多数看见的就是skelecton ,而你LV超过15以后就有可能看见great mummy了,道具也是同样道理.
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由 neomax 在 2002-07-08 11:21 发表:

Wail of Banshee是fortitude save，可能和finger of death有点重复，所以我还是选Weird

由不是很懂在 2002-07-08 13:16 发表:

大家觉得Weird和Wail of Banshee哪个好些？

由 A.Mage 在 2002-07-09 10:24 发表:

Weird感觉上从来没有成功过........无论是我施展还是别人施展.......虽然我有shadow shield,免疫一切即死的说......
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由 HMY 在 2002-07-09 10:28 发表:

即死的有一个很大的缺点：经常杀了不掉DD，很亏。
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由 RealMyth 在 2002-07-09 10:29 发表:

A.Mage啊,一开始你都用点什么保护法术来着?
shadow shield?stone skin?预知术?似乎我还没有把这些保护用完对方的战士就已经冲到我身边了啊.介绍一下sor PVP 开局吧.
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由 A.Mage 在 2002-07-09 10:35 发表:

哈哈,这就是最不公平的地方,法师可以在准备室里休息和施法........

不过反过来,要是法师只能光着出场对法师就太不公平了.......

因此,我当然是把能用的法术先全用上再说了........
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