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NWN最大的败笔!
界面不够人性化、操作烦琐是NWN最大的败笔!一款以网络为主的游戏最重要的就是操作和界面,而NWN在这点上做的是最差劲的!只能希望以后会有改进操作的补丁了。
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I don't feel a thing
And I stop remembering
The days are just like moments turn to hours
Mother used to say
If you want, you'll find a way
But mother never danced through fire showers
Walk in the rain, in the rain, in the rain
I walk in the rain, in the rain
Is it right or is it wrong?
Or is it here that I belong?
I dont't hear a sound
Silent faces in the ground
The quiet screames, but I refuse to listen
If there is a hell
I'm sure this is how it smells
Wish this were a dream, but no it isn't
Walk in the rain, in the rain, in the rain
I walk in the rain, in the rain
Why do I feel so alone
For some reason I think of home
我除了ft没别的话可说
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Nobody knows my heart,not excepting u?
???
还好吧,我觉得
不能指望和RTS一样……
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儿时荒唐
年少轻狂
四海浪荡
无言望月思乡 梦中伊人
绝世面庞
寻觅痴狂
无助随波逐浪
负重行囊
南北纵闯
奋足红墙
无为落寞夕阳 举目他乡
藏情两望
视尘如盲
无奈买醉沧桑
没人指望NWN的操作能和RTS游戏一样简捷,但现在NWN在操作和界面等方面做的还不如BG...这就不能不让人骂了
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I don't feel a thing
And I stop remembering
The days are just like moments turn to hours
Mother used to say
If you want, you'll find a way
But mother never danced through fire showers
Walk in the rain, in the rain, in the rain
I walk in the rain, in the rain
Is it right or is it wrong?
Or is it here that I belong?
I dont't hear a sound
Silent faces in the ground
The quiet screames, but I refuse to listen
If there is a hell
I'm sure this is how it smells
Wish this were a dream, but no it isn't
Walk in the rain, in the rain, in the rain
I walk in the rain, in the rain
Why do I feel so alone
For some reason I think of home
去你的
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(韩国民工唱)总想对你表白,我的民族是多么豪迈,总想对你倾诉,我对世界杯的热爱,
勤劳勇敢的韩国人,意气风发走进世界杯,啊~~~~我们意气风发走进那
让我告诉世界,葡和意已被我们淘汰,让我告诉未来,西班牙出局无须等待
承前启后的韩国人,带领世界杯走进新时代,啊~~~~带领世界杯走进那
我们喊着大韩民国,张牙舞爪站起来,我们讲着黑哨的故事,拿着兴奋剂喝
善良可爱的裁判员,带领我们走进那总决赛,厚着脸皮开创未来。
不会吧,有很多快捷键可定义呀
rt
NWN应该这样玩的
开着电脑,喝着茶,拿着文曲星,做着笔记,慢悠悠的,不在意操作啊
老实说这样玩的游戏不多了
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儿时荒唐
年少轻狂
四海浪荡
无言望月思乡 梦中伊人
绝世面庞
寻觅痴狂
无助随波逐浪
负重行囊
南北纵闯
奋足红墙
无为落寞夕阳 举目他乡
藏情两望
视尘如盲
无奈买醉沧桑
以前有个农民拿着拖把说……这根锄头怎么这么怪?
我没什么意思……我认罪……我愿意受罚……
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容易被遗忘的人~
也是愿意被遗忘的人~
我只是个白痴~
可能也是个BT~
请把我当成路人乙~谢谢...
世界上根本没什么言论自由~
例如斑竹老删我的帖~
我自己规定一星期发帖不能超10篇~
引用:
最初由 白狼 发表
NWN应该这样玩的
开着电脑,喝着茶,拿着文曲星,做着笔记,慢悠悠的,不在意操作啊
我觉得比bg操作方便多了
作为网络游戏nwn操作上也没什么大问题
加个制作macro的功能吧 估计也用不到 
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你们也不用一副卫道者的face,我也是NWN的支持者,我也喜欢NWN,但正因为我喜欢它,我才希望它能够更完美,不然我才不费力的去登记参加测试(可惜没被选上),我才不会费力的为NWN挑BUG和提合理性建议。
单机时NWN的操作如何就不评论了,完全可以像楼上白狼兄说的那样“开着电脑,喝着茶,拿着文曲星,做着笔记,慢悠悠的,不在意操作”,但NWN可是个侧重联网方面的游戏,而联网游戏最忌讳的就是操作烦琐,12个快捷键是远远不够的(玩过网络游戏的诸君应该知道这个,就拿UO来举例,一个熟练的魔法师最起码也有20个以上的快捷键盘,配合宏才能无往不利),而NWN就连看一下物品属性都要点2次鼠标,所以我说,刻意复杂化的操作是NWN最大的败笔也不是无的放失的。
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I don't feel a thing
And I stop remembering
The days are just like moments turn to hours
Mother used to say
If you want, you'll find a way
But mother never danced through fire showers
Walk in the rain, in the rain, in the rain
I walk in the rain, in the rain
Is it right or is it wrong?
Or is it here that I belong?
I dont't hear a sound
Silent faces in the ground
The quiet screames, but I refuse to listen
If there is a hell
I'm sure this is how it smells
Wish this were a dream, but no it isn't
Walk in the rain, in the rain, in the rain
I walk in the rain, in the rain
Why do I feel so alone
For some reason I think of home
再说魔法,常用的魔法可以做到快捷里(不够用...),而不常用的就只能...右键-施法-魔法书-123456789环-点法术-点目标...这期间如果一个不小心点错了或者点到了空处,就又得回头从新点...我甚至有些怀疑这个游戏是不是做出来测试玩家鼠标质量的了...
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I don't feel a thing
And I stop remembering
The days are just like moments turn to hours
Mother used to say
If you want, you'll find a way
But mother never danced through fire showers
Walk in the rain, in the rain, in the rain
I walk in the rain, in the rain
Is it right or is it wrong?
Or is it here that I belong?
I dont't hear a sound
Silent faces in the ground
The quiet screames, but I refuse to listen
If there is a hell
I'm sure this is how it smells
Wish this were a dream, but no it isn't
Walk in the rain, in the rain, in the rain
I walk in the rain, in the rain
Why do I feel so alone
For some reason I think of home
回复: NWN最大的败笔!
引用:
最初由 Raistlin Majere 发表
界面不够人性化、操作烦琐是NWN最大的败笔!一款以网络为主的游戏最重要的就是操作和界面,而NWN在这点上做的是最差劲的!只能希望以后会有改进操作的补丁了。
再说魔法书,我实在是忘不了BG/IWD系列那直观明了简洁象形的魔法书界面...而NWN...唉...恨铁不成钢啊
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I don't feel a thing
And I stop remembering
The days are just like moments turn to hours
Mother used to say
If you want, you'll find a way
But mother never danced through fire showers
Walk in the rain, in the rain, in the rain
I walk in the rain, in the rain
Is it right or is it wrong?
Or is it here that I belong?
I dont't hear a sound
Silent faces in the ground
The quiet screames, but I refuse to listen
If there is a hell
I'm sure this is how it smells
Wish this were a dream, but no it isn't
Walk in the rain, in the rain, in the rain
I walk in the rain, in the rain
Why do I feel so alone
For some reason I think of home
万分期待IWD2、BG3、NWN2中...
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I don't feel a thing
And I stop remembering
The days are just like moments turn to hours
Mother used to say
If you want, you'll find a way
But mother never danced through fire showers
Walk in the rain, in the rain, in the rain
I walk in the rain, in the rain
Is it right or is it wrong?
Or is it here that I belong?
I dont't hear a sound
Silent faces in the ground
The quiet screames, but I refuse to listen
If there is a hell
I'm sure this is how it smells
Wish this were a dream, but no it isn't
Walk in the rain, in the rain, in the rain
I walk in the rain, in the rain
Why do I feel so alone
For some reason I think of home
引用:
最初由 Raistlin Majere 发表
再说魔法,常用的魔法可以做到快捷里(不够用...),而不常用的就只能...右键-施法-魔法书-123456789环-点法术-点目标...这期间如果一个不小心点错了或者点到了空处,就又得回头从新点...我甚至有些怀疑这个游戏是不是...
NWN可是有36个快捷键的.
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But I still haven't found what I'm looking for.
我觉得NWN通过shift、ctrl切换的快捷栏比BG优秀太多了
几乎所有的动作都可以通过定义快捷键一瞬间完成
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Fear is my ally, Anger is my weapon, Pain is my teacher, Darkness is my sanctity, Suffering is what await my enemies.
I will be their destructor, I will be their bane.
NWN不是12个快捷键,是36个,另24个分别用shift,ctrl激活,应该够用了吧?
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No time 4 chitchat.
36个快捷扭比bg2还便捷多了。只是最大的操控问题是控制视角。ds比他好多了
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最初由 jedi 发表
我觉得NWN通过shift、ctrl切换的快捷栏比BG优秀太多了
几乎所有的动作都可以通过定义快捷键一瞬间完成
nwn的快键不错...
但是选单层数太多....... 特别是魔法..........
虽然有36个快键...但很多魔法还是设不上的..
就算设了也记不住啊.......
这点怀念uo... 可以用字母来做快键有助于记忆........:)
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深情款款,终逃不过那生死别离;
一世情缘,却无法面对那已逝之情。
无论好与坏,只言情与爱;
即使心已伤,也只愿把泪藏。
余情已了,却只盼与你心灵相系;
大家不用与Raistlin Majere斗嘴
他在龙堡是出了名的有钱有闲,而且是个超级怪人。
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There is no emotion; there is peace.
There is no ignorance; there is knowledge.
There is no passion; there is serenity.
There is no death; there is the Force.
魔法一多,施法者的水平就见分晓了吧。
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最初由 pusher 发表
大家不用与Raistlin Majere斗嘴
他在龙堡是出了名的有钱有闲,而且是个超级怪人。
36个快捷,我打赌这里的诸君没有一个全部用到的,最多也就用到f1-f12
__________________
I don't feel a thing
And I stop remembering
The days are just like moments turn to hours
Mother used to say
If you want, you'll find a way
But mother never danced through fire showers
Walk in the rain, in the rain, in the rain
I walk in the rain, in the rain
Is it right or is it wrong?
Or is it here that I belong?
I dont't hear a sound
Silent faces in the ground
The quiet screames, but I refuse to listen
If there is a hell
I'm sure this is how it smells
Wish this were a dream, but no it isn't
Walk in the rain, in the rain, in the rain
I walk in the rain, in the rain
Why do I feel so alone
For some reason I think of home
引用:
最初由 pusher 发表
大家不用与Raistlin Majere斗嘴
他在龙堡是出了名的有钱有闲,而且是个超级怪人。
pusher...你...把我精心策划好的光辉出场计划全给搅乱了...555
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最初由 pusher 发表
大家不用与Raistlin Majere斗嘴
他在龙堡是出了名的有钱有闲,而且是个超级怪人。

...
倒,看来得澄清一下...我可不是哈日一族,正相反,我是反日联盟的,但我也深信一点,艺术无国界...
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I don't feel a thing
And I stop remembering
The days are just like moments turn to hours
Mother used to say
If you want, you'll find a way
But mother never danced through fire showers
Walk in the rain, in the rain, in the rain
I walk in the rain, in the rain
Is it right or is it wrong?
Or is it here that I belong?
I dont't hear a sound
Silent faces in the ground
The quiet screames, but I refuse to listen
If there is a hell
I'm sure this is how it smells
Wish this were a dream, but no it isn't
Walk in the rain, in the rain, in the rain
I walk in the rain, in the rain
Why do I feel so alone
For some reason I think of home
啊,那个.......Raistlin Majere兄,
请问龙堡搬到哪儿去了?
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学好文件抓好纲
紧跟主席不忘党
主站:http://www.cndkc.org
论坛:http://vampire.l18.bizcn.com/bbs/
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I don't feel a thing
And I stop remembering
The days are just like moments turn to hours
Mother used to say
If you want, you'll find a way
But mother never danced through fire showers
Walk in the rain, in the rain, in the rain
I walk in the rain, in the rain
Is it right or is it wrong?
Or is it here that I belong?
I dont't hear a sound
Silent faces in the ground
The quiet screames, but I refuse to listen
If there is a hell
I'm sure this is how it smells
Wish this were a dream, but no it isn't
Walk in the rain, in the rain, in the rain
I walk in the rain, in the rain
Why do I feel so alone
For some reason I think of home
www.cndkc.org...............
论坛么...........
翻墙吧
从主页上好像上不去
现在不知道改了没有
引用:
最初由 Raistlin Majere 发表
36个快捷,我打赌这里的诸君没有一个全部用到的,最多也就用到f1-f12
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最初由 prosup 发表
还是ft,自己都说f1-f12用不玩,还说快捷键不够用
听楼上几位的话,我讨论?..
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最初由 Raistlin Majere 发表
36个快捷,我打赌这里的诸君没有一个全部用到的,最多也就用到f1-f12
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这话是谁说的?
还打赌............
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Nobody knows my heart,not excepting u?
反正我是单手流~
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儿时荒唐
年少轻狂
四海浪荡
无言望月思乡 梦中伊人
绝世面庞
寻觅痴狂
无助随波逐浪
负重行囊
南北纵闯
奋足红墙
无为落寞夕阳 举目他乡
藏情两望
视尘如盲
无奈买醉沧桑
有36个快捷键
rt
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Power lays only in Curious
引用:
最初由 prosup 发表
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最初由 Raistlin Majere 发表
36个快捷,我打赌这里的诸君没有一个全部用到的,最多也就用到f1-f12
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嗯……按一下ctrl或者shift就能立刻看到这里所定义的12个键……
我觉得是挺方便的啦……
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我觉得nwn就是应该慢慢的玩啊!
花个200小时好好的玩。
我和立顿红茶的,开两台电脑,一台打,一台做笔记,查字典...
我职业选sorcerer,好像快捷键根本用不完的样子
Raistlin Majere :你是在uo家园站的那个Raistlin Majere吗?
我是wowu
你也在玩nwn啊
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最初由 博得初学者 发表
Raistlin Majere :你是在uo家园站的那个Raistlin Majere吗?
我是wowu
你也在玩nwn啊
我用f1 f2 f3 f4 ctrl+f1 f2 f3 f4 shift+f1 f2 f3 f4
我觉的这样还方便些~~那些也太远了。。
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有很多事。。是我们无法控制的。。
嘿嘿,真是你啊,怎么样,做个任务我们一起玩玩啊!
你用什么职业?
我选的是个高智商战士,现在13级,因为特技多,我调到最难都觉得没博得系列那种感觉有挑战,实在难度低啊,单机没有博得做的好,根本违背了AD@D的各个职业集体配合冒险的乐趣,让我失望啊
不知道多人的会怎么样?一起玩下吧
等吧
我前几天升级1.18,升错了,不停的非法,后来反安装的时候又忘了保留原来的save,全部挂挡,现在正从练中。
而且我是打算翻版一次之后再玩联机,省得上去之后手忙脚乱
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I don't feel a thing
And I stop remembering
The days are just like moments turn to hours
Mother used to say
If you want, you'll find a way
But mother never danced through fire showers
Walk in the rain, in the rain, in the rain
I walk in the rain, in the rain
Is it right or is it wrong?
Or is it here that I belong?
I dont't hear a sound
Silent faces in the ground
The quiet screames, but I refuse to listen
If there is a hell
I'm sure this is how it smells
Wish this were a dream, but no it isn't
Walk in the rain, in the rain, in the rain
I walk in the rain, in the rain
Why do I feel so alone
For some reason I think of home
对于非法师职业的话12个快捷键足够了…………
就算是法师的话24个也足够了…………鬼才相信需要用到的常用魔法会超过20个…………
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人生八九不如意…………
正如D20出1
非法师职业也要设置很多主动技能的快捷
XD,累
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I don't feel a thing
And I stop remembering
The days are just like moments turn to hours
Mother used to say
If you want, you'll find a way
But mother never danced through fire showers
Walk in the rain, in the rain, in the rain
I walk in the rain, in the rain
Is it right or is it wrong?
Or is it here that I belong?
I dont't hear a sound
Silent faces in the ground
The quiet screames, but I refuse to listen
If there is a hell
I'm sure this is how it smells
Wish this were a dream, but no it isn't
Walk in the rain, in the rain, in the rain
I walk in the rain, in the rain
Why do I feel so alone
For some reason I think of home
玩uo的有没有在南海gg站玩过?听过吗?没有听过就算了...
我覺得已經很棒了....
Neverwinter night的道具法術這麼多....要做到這樣已經很好了..
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最初由 无缘 发表
玩uo的有没有在南海gg站玩过?听过吗?没有听过就算了...
我全面支持Raistlin Majere 的意見,操作上實在太麻煩了>O<
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最初由 Syn 发表
对于非法师职业的话12个快捷键足够了…………
就算是法师的话24个也足够了…………鬼才相信需要用到的常用魔法会超过20个…………
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最初由 Raistlin Majere 发表
36个快捷,我打赌这里的诸君没有一个全部用到的,最多也就用到f1-f12
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最初由 fallenstar 发表
偶是用全36个,去掉召唤使徒,前12个是wand、常用法术和卷轴,
Ctrl打开攻击?..
en.....
尤其对我左手鼠标右手键盘。。。
SC就是因为这个我按不到A的说...
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Nosferatu of the Brujah...
Holy among the Damned
回复: en.....
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最初由 inferno 发表
尤其对我左手鼠标右手键盘。。。
SC就是因为这个我按不到A的说...

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最初由 Zipy 发表
感觉F9-F12和Ctrl、Shift搭配很别扭,单手不能同时按到。
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最初由 雷笙 发表
我觉得比bg操作方便多了
作为网络游戏nwn操作上也没什么大问题
加个制作macro的功能吧 估计也用不到![]()
回复: en.....
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最初由 inferno 发表
尤其对我左手鼠标右手键盘。。。
SC就是因为这个我按不到A的说...
可以按右边的shift和ctrl
不过偶的monk用12个够了
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(韩国民工唱)总想对你表白,我的民族是多么豪迈,总想对你倾诉,我对世界杯的热爱,
勤劳勇敢的韩国人,意气风发走进世界杯,啊~~~~我们意气风发走进那
让我告诉世界,葡和意已被我们淘汰,让我告诉未来,西班牙出局无须等待
承前启后的韩国人,带领世界杯走进新时代,啊~~~~带领世界杯走进那
我们喊着大韩民国,张牙舞爪站起来,我们讲着黑哨的故事,拿着兴奋剂喝
善良可爱的裁判员,带领我们走进那总决赛,厚着脸皮开创未来。
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最初由 Raistlin Majere 发表
正式玩的站只有wolf、jarry、ac、attin、sunny、dreamer、

联通
哈哈哈哈……
爽的人到底还是有啊
我就是一边吃西瓜一边玩的
左手得到了很好的锻炼
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Guards,guards!
hehe,从前我后来的毕业设计导师教人打war2时候第一课就是单手指法,要求做到左手盲打键盘上所有按键及组合。看来实在是有远见啊。
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Let the one you hold
be the one you want,
the one you need.
oh...兔子……跑到这里来了啊……
ka!那,过几天咱们连nwn吧……过几天……
这几天……咳咳。
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That's all.
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最初由 Raistlin Majere 发表
36个快捷,我打赌这里的诸君没有一个全部用到的,最多也就用到f1-f12
我要照顾我的雇佣兵 还要照顾我自己 如果危险时刻 还要照顾比我的生命都重要的使徒 (她要是死了我就Faint Again了....) 忙不过来啊.......
另外.....我全力战斗的时候 不用鼠标的 鼠标是负担......用键盘.....36个快捷 加上数字快捷.......只要控制的好 手指头灵活 那你的人物就会变成你自己一样.....异常灵活......就好像小鸟一样 飞上天堂~~~~~ Dead......
一键走天下吧
(空格键)
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Guards,guards!
我的魔法快捷键总是在不停的更换中,根本没法记
法术图书馆就是这点让人抓狂
想用element shield给自己加个防护踩陷阱,发现没有记忆
然后开法术书,添加,设快捷,REST……过了一会要用到KNOCK,重复……
WIZ的最大乐趣就是翻开法术书欣赏自己搜集的五花八门的魔法,幸福啊,虽然大部分用不上……
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Fear is my ally, Anger is my weapon, Pain is my teacher, Darkness is my sanctity, Suffering is what await my enemies.
I will be their destructor, I will be their bane.
这种情况, 以前我们玩sc的时候叫独臂神尼
当然要那种不是随便就能推掉的才称得上
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And you will know My name is the Lord
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最初由 jedi 发表
WIZ的最大乐趣就是翻开法术书欣赏自己搜集的五花八门的魔法,幸福啊,虽然大部分用不上……
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最初由 jedi 发表
WIZ的最大乐趣就是翻开法术书欣赏自己搜集的五花八门的魔法,幸福啊,虽然大部分用不上……
对对,wiz的好处就丰富的知识,能装满一个图书馆的魔法书是财富啊~~财富~!
36个魔法快捷键还不够用阿?
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我用一生证明一件事[br]人终究是会死去的~
法师是很虚的……
没MAGIC BAG估计是拿个护甲就要传送回来……
我才不用快捷键,暂停后点好了
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